(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[GoPanda:1.0-preview]ST[1]
SZ[19]KM[6.5]
PW[donatello]WR[2d?]PB[betterlife]BR[3d?]RE[W+1.5]DT[2010-12-09]PC[IGS-PandaNet]

;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[op]
;W[jp]
;B[qj]
;W[mq]C[Valheru [1k+\]: i expected that white would play around R10]
;B[do]C[Valheru [1k+\]: K4 was new for me
Djaian: it's true that usually you consider R10 being the only move in this situation]
;W[cm]C[Djaian: (if you only consider black stones, i don't know if white position makes it different)
Valheru [1k+\]: yeah, R10 extension is big for black
Valheru [1k+\]: i also saw the move R14 for white from pro games]
;B[cq]C[Djaian: I remember a lesson from a strong player saying that R10 was the only move (however, white 2 stones were on hoshi)]
;W[cr]
;B[cp]
;W[gq]C[kyusama [6k?\]: with k4 white looks a bit like kobayashi opening
kyusama [6k?\]: thus is D5 good?
Valheru [1k+\]: i think D5 is natural there.
Djaian: yes]
;B[fo]C[Djaian: D5 looks ok
Valheru [1k+\]: hmmm
Valheru [1k+\]: i'm not sure about F5
Valheru [1k+\]: i prefer E7
Valheru [1k+\]: instead of F5]
;W[er]
;B[em]
;W[dk]C[Djaian: e7 looks a little bit slow...
Djaian: but I am not sure
Valheru [1k+\]: yes]
;B[fk]C[Valheru [1k+\]: F9?
Djaian: F9 looks like a fake strong move
Valheru [1k+\]: :)
Djaian: But I really don't know
Djaian: I prefer white
Djaian: but I am a kyu player...
Valheru [1k+\]: i think you have a sense of true move
Valheru [1k+\]: it is a open place so you can say many moves, opinions as much as you can :)
Valheru [1k+\]: F9 looksd as an ugly move]
;W[ch]C[Valheru [1k+\]: so it can be a bad move :)
Djaian: I prefer to say that I am a kyu player, since it is not written after my nick]
;B[jc]
;W[qf]C[Djaian: but it looks like a difficult game for black already]
;B[qe]
;W[pf]C[Valheru [1k+\]: i think it's a favorable game for black]
;B[nd]
;W[qh]
;B[oj]
;W[rj]
;B[rk]
;W[ri]
;B[qk]
;W[or]C[Valheru [1k+\]: p2 is an end game move
Valheru [1k+\]: tenuki time for black :)]
;B[nf]
;W[oh]
;B[gc]
;W[de]
;B[mo]C[Valheru [1k+\]: N5 is strong move]
;W[mh]C[shinsei [2k+\]: K15 looks interesting for B
shinsei [2k+\]: i think it could become troublesome if white invaded before balck reinforced his position at the top
Hikarob [2k+\]: I would hesitate between M13 and N10]
;B[pq]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: L14 would also ensure a lot of black points
Valheru [1k+\]: i think L3 is an invasion point for black]
;W[qc]C[Djaian: q3 looks slow, but I think it is a nice move
Djaian: black moyo is so much stronger, and white 2 stones might have problem after an invasion at L3
Hikarob [2k+\]: position is rather simple, so big endmoves like Q3 should be fine]
;B[qd]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: with O14 the upper side is quite solid...
Hikarob [2k+\]: can white really survive there?]
;W[rc]C[Valheru [1k+\]: yes
Hikarob [2k+\]: S15 now destabilizes the bigger group (S13 threat)
Hikarob [2k+\]: but defending S13 let the invasion die!
Valheru [1k+\]: i think white firstly prefer to live at the top
Hikarob [2k+\]: If Black S13, then attacking the weak group should ensure may reinforcement for black territories during the figh
Hikarob [2k+\]: fight]
;B[pc]C[dragonrojo [2d\]: i think w seems good in the game]
;W[re]
;B[rd]C[shinsei [2k+\]: so do I. The positions just seem less attackable]
;W[sd]
;B[qb]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: S18 not possible for white
Hikarob [2k+\]: good reading for white
Hikarob [2k+\]: sorry, for black
Hikarob [2k+\]: so he ends sente
Hikarob [2k+\]: and can choose next action
Valheru [1k+\]: L15 is big for black
Valheru [1k+\]: and N10
Valheru [1k+\]: but, firstly L15 i think :)
Hikarob [2k+\]: black quite solid on upper side,
Hikarob [2k+\]: I would prefer N10 first]
;W[rg]
;B[lp]C[Djaian: m4 thank you move?
Djaian: black afraid of going deeper...
Hikarob [2k+\]: if not invading then...]
;W[kr]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: L5 building bigger moyo and threatening invasion harder
Hikarob [2k+\]: oh, what ' s that white second line??
Djaian: fake tesuji
Djaian: I would j3
Hikarob [2k+\]: thankyou answer!
Djaian: now as black]
;B[jo]C[Djaian: let's say they both missclicked]
;W[io]
;B[jn]
;W[in]
;B[im]
;W[pr]
;B[jq]
;W[iq]
;B[kp]
;W[ip]
;B[kq]
;W[jr]
;B[ni]
;W[mg]
;B[lj]
;W[kd]
;B[kc]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[rq]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: black is ensuring more and more points
Djaian: but white has a lot of points too?]
;B[rp]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: the center exchanges were all black profit]
;W[kk]C[Djaian: I am too lazy to count
Hikarob [2k+\]: the upper exchanges didnt give nothing to white
Hikarob [2k+\]: now you see this deep invasion
Djaian: very dangerous
Djaian: all or nothing
Hikarob [2k+\]: means white has not enough
Hikarob [2k+\]: yes
Djaian: K11]
;B[ji]C[Djaian: haha
Djaian: I got one move correct]
;W[jm]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: one more black stone in center
Hikarob [2k+\]: and he could cut off hte two white stones LM16]
;B[il]
;W[km]
;B[ln]
;W[ik]
;B[hk]
;W[ij]C[Observing game 103 (donatello vs. betterlife) :
      Husrev 2d   dragonrojo 2d      baklava 2d 
     Valheru 1k+     shinsei 2k+     Hikarob 2k+
      Djaian 3k      kyusama 6k       myrsky 7k 
        moft BC 
Found 10 observers (including 0 guests).]
;B[hj]
;W[ii]
;B[jh]
;W[kj]
;B[lk]
;W[ki]
;B[lf]
;W[gm]
;B[ek]
;W[dl]
;B[fm]
;W[hl]
;B[eh]
;W[dg]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]
;B[gh]
;W[kf]C[Valheru [1k+\]: i think white gained a lot because of black's mistakes]
;B[kg]C[Djaian: so it looks
Valheru [1k+\]: so it is favorable for it now
kyusama [6k?\]: good moves from white
Djaian: I agree
Valheru [1k+\]: a problem for low kyus
Valheru [1k+\]: how can black capture the white stone s3?]
;W[hg]C[Djaian: :-)
Valheru [1k+\]: yes, we all kyu players are strong, right? :)]
;B[hh]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[if]
;B[jg]
;W[mf]
;B[jf]
;W[me]
;B[ie]
;W[rb]
;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[eb]
;W[ec]
;B[ci]
;W[cj]
;B[di]
;W[bi]
;B[fb]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[qa]
;B[dj]
;W[bj]
;B[oa]
;W[ff]
;B[bb]
;W[cc]
;B[ca]
;W[qr]
;B[bn]
;W[bm]
;B[bc]
;W[ba]
;B[aa]
;W[bd]
;B[ac]
;W[ad]
;B[nq]
;W[nr]
;B[lr]
;W[mr]
;B[lq]
;W[np]
;B[no]
;W[kn]
;B[ks]
;W[ir]C[Valheru [1k+\]: hmmm
Valheru [1k+\]: poor white!
Valheru [1k+\]: i think, white's endgame is not good
myrsky [7k?\]: what are the byo-yomi settings?]
;B[gf]
;W[lm]
;B[mm]C[Djaian: 25 stones in 10 minutes]
;W[ko]
;B[mp]
;W[fg]
;B[gg]
;W[md]
;B[mc]
;W[cn]
;B[bo]C[dragonrojo [2d\]: very close game it seems]
;W[jd]C[Djaian: really?]
;B[id]C[Djaian: it looked like white got all big endgame moves]
;W[ne]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: on fast count it seems close
dragonrojo [2d\]: if w win i predict less than komi]
;B[oe]
;W[of]
;B[br]
;W[bs]
;B[ar]
;W[ms]
;B[ls]
;W[fh]
;B[fi]
;W[ll]
;B[ml]C[dragonrojo [2d\]: now b is better]
;W[nc]
;B[od]C[kyusama [6k?\]: oops]
;W[pa]
;B[nb]C[Djaian: o17 nothing
Djaian: only sente
Djaian: q19 waste of ko threat
kyusama [6k?\]: normally that's the way i die, sorry, just bad memories]
;W[mi]C[Djaian: :-)]
;B[mj]
;W[ge]
;B[fd]
;W[fe]
;B[sq]
;W[sr]
;B[sp]
;W[he]
;B[hf]
;W[hi]
;B[gi]
;W[el]C[Djaian: g6]
;B[gn]C[Actorios [10k?\]: why g6?]
;W[hn]C[Djaian: yeah, my second move
Djaian: take was better, wasn't it?
Djaian: now K10 sente]
;B[fl]C[Actorios [10k?\]: K10 is small, isn't it ?]
;W[ep]C[Djaian: but still why give one point in sente for black]
;B[eo]C[Djaian: well, g45 is atari
Djaian: *g5]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]
;W[co]
;B[dp]
;W[fp]
;B[qq]
;W[rr]C[Actorios [10k?\]: who is ahead ?]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: very close... maybe W a couple of points?]
;B[ed]
;W[dd]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: maybe black a couple of points?
Hikarob [2k+\]: E14 funny]
;B[gp]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: but T10 reverse sente better...]
;W[hp]C[Djaian: t9 sente?]
;B[go]C[Djaian: not sure]
;W[an]
;B[ap]
;W[oi]
;B[nj]C[Actorios [10k?\]: was does "reverse sente" mean ?]
;W[ke]
;B[pi]
;W[ph]C[baklava [2d?\]: when you play gote but it is opponents sente]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: B wins by 2.5]
;B[eg]C[shinsei [2k+\]: it's close, but I think W wins
shinsei [2k+\]: but it really depends on the endgame
kyusama [6k?\]: depend on t9
Hikarob [2k+\]: T9 3pts reverse sente was bigger
Hikarob [2k+\]: (T10 black)]
;W[ef]
;B[as]C[shinsei [2k+\]: M13 big
Hikarob [2k+\]: M3 only 3 pts gote
Djaian: but gote 
Hikarob [2k+\]: D12 much bigger
Djaian: I like D12]
;W[dr]
;B[dh]C[shinsei [2k+\]: so does lorenz
Hikarob [2k+\]: lorenz saw nice tesuji in lower corner]
;W[cg]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: if white C1 then D1-D2-F3-E3-F2 disaster for W :-)]
;B[cs]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: now time for T10]
;W[fr]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: W endgame very weak...]
;B[lg]
;W[qi]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: ops...
Hikarob [2k+\]: both ignored T9-T10 :-)]
;B[pj]
;W[lo]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: maybe they consider T9 gote?]
;B[sj]
;W[mn]
;B[nn]
;W[si]
;B[sk]
;W[dm]C[shinsei [2k+\]: still very close. around b+2-ish]
;B[js]
;W[is]
;B[oq]C[Hikarob [2k+\]: it can be a 0.5]
;W[am]C[Djaian: e15
Actorios [10k?\]: what is the result of the second game ?]
;B[dn]C[Djaian: 2-0 for switzerland
Hikarob [2k+\]: Seb won]
;W[ao]
;B[bp]C[Djaian: seb and josef won]
;W[ds]C[Actorios [10k?\]: Nice
Hikarob [2k+\]: now E15]
;B[ee]
;W[ln]
;B[bs]
;W[pe]
;B[oc]
;W[df]
;B[fc]
;W[li]
;B[lh]
;W[tt]
;B[tt]
;W[tt]TB[ab][aq][ba][bq][da][ea][ei][ej][en][fa][fj][fn][ga][gb][gj][gk][ha][hb][hg][ia][ib][ic][if][ja][jb][ka][kb][la][lb][ma][mb][mk][na][nc][nk][nl][nm][np][ok][ol][om][on][oo][pk][pl][pm][pn][po][pp][ql][qm][qn][qo][rl][rm][rn][ro][sl][sm][sn][so]TW[ae][af][ag][ah][ai][aj][ak][al][be][bf][bg][bh][bk][bl][cd][ce][cf][ck][cl][eq][es][fq][fs][gr][gs][hq][hr][hs][il][im][jl][jn][jo][kl][nf][ns][og][os][pg][ps][qb][qg][qs][ra][rf][rh][rs][sa][sb][sc][se][sf][sg][sh][ss]C[W 68.5 B 67.0]
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